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		<title>Filling the holes: thoughts on an EMC/Courion combo</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 16:57:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ian Glazer</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>So RSA&#8217;s parent company, EMC has entered into agreement with Courion to offer Courion&#8217;s suite of products including:</p> PasswordCourier &#8211; password management AccountCourier &#8211; user provisioning RoleCourier &#8211; role engineering and management ComplianceCourier &#8211; policy verification and self-assessment <p>This, as Ian Yip points out, does fill the gapping hole in the EMC/RSA identity management story [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So RSA&#8217;s parent company, EMC has entered into agreement with Courion <a href="http://www.courion.com/company/pressreleases.aspx?id=2488">to offer Courion&#8217;s suite</a> of products including:</p>
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<li>PasswordCourier &#8211; password management</li>
<li>AccountCourier &#8211; user provisioning</li>
<li>RoleCourier &#8211; role engineering and management</li>
<li>ComplianceCourier &#8211; policy verification and self-assessment</li>
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<p>This, as <a href="http://blog.ianyip.com/2008/02/does-emc-have-its-eyes-set-on-courion.html" title="Ian Yip's Security and Identity Thoughts">Ian Yip points out</a>, does fill the gapping hole in the EMC/RSA identity management story left by Oracle purchasing Thor, RSA&#8217;s old user provisioning partner.</p>
<p>The other side of this equation is that Courion has lacked a web access management tool.  That is not to say that I think they truly needed one and I applaud Courion for sticking to their knitting and making a really great business/end-user focused suite.  But that being said, they are in Gartner&#8217;s leadership quadrant for user provisioning with the big boys, all of whom have WAC/WAM capabilities.  In a toe-to-toe fight against those guys I am sure there are cases where no having a WAM product has hurt them.  (Although people proclaim the identity management suite dead or at least a non-issue, I have to imagine that there are still RFPs out there looking for the whole enchilada no matter how poorly integrated it might be.)  This is the long way around to say that RSA Access Manager (Securant not to be confused with Securent &#8211; anyone else confused by this?) helps fill a hole in the Courion family of products.</p>
<p>All in all if EMC were to actually buy Courion, it would be too surprising.  At the very least, it wouldn&#8217;t increase employees&#8217; commute to work too much&#8230;</p>
<div id="crp_related"><h3>Related Posts:</h3><ul><li><a href="http://www.tuesdaynight.org/2006/02/07/roles-courion-a-prediction-for-2006-and-rsa.html" rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">Roles, Courion, a Prediction for 2006, and RSA</a></li><li><a href="http://www.tuesdaynight.org/2005/11/30/looking-back-to-look-forward-thoughts-on-hp-acquiring-of-trustgenix.html" rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">Looking back to look forward: Thoughts on HP acquiring of Trustgenix</a></li><li><a href="http://www.tuesdaynight.org/2007/05/11/if-you-dont-know-where-you-are-going-no-road-will-take-you-there.html" rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">If you don&#8217;t know where you are going, no road will take you there</a></li><li><a href="http://www.tuesdaynight.org/2007/04/06/you-mean-people-actually-use-this-stuff.html" rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">You mean people actually use this stuff?</a></li><li><a href="http://www.tuesdaynight.org/2005/11/14/attack-of-the-yams-thoghts-on-the-role-management-panel-at-digital-id-world.html" rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">Attack of the YAMS: Thoughts on the Role Management Panel at Digital ID World</a></li></ul></div>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>More coverage of Cisco and Securent</title>
		<link>http://www.tuesdaynight.org/2007/11/02/more-coverage-of-cisco-and-securent.html</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 20:46:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ian Glazer</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>I think that Phil&#8217;s take on this sits somewhere in between Dave&#8217;s cynicism and Eric&#8217;s unabashed joy.</p> <p>I do agree with Dave in that I doubt that this acquisition signals a market consolidation &#8211; the entitlement market is too new.  Look at the role management market as an example: it&#8217;s been around for a few [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that <a href="http://identityblog.burtongroup.com/bgidps/2007/11/on-ciscos-agree.html" title="Phil Schacter - Burton Group">Phil&#8217;s</a> take on this sits somewhere in between <a href="http://vquill.com/2007/11/cisco-gets-entitled.html" title="Dave Kearns">Dave&#8217;s cynicism</a> and <a href="http://defragcon.com/Blog/?p=167" title="Eric Norlin">Eric&#8217;s unabashed joy</a>.</p>
<p>I do agree with Dave in that I doubt that this acquisition signals a market consolidation &#8211; the entitlement market is too new.  Look at the role management market as an example: it&#8217;s been around for a few years, lived longer than most expected, and just now are we seeing consolidation.</p>
<div id="crp_related"><h3>Related Posts:</h3><ul><li><a href="http://www.tuesdaynight.org/2007/11/01/your-network-ate-my-fine-grained-auth-engine-cisco-to-acquire-securent.html" rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">Your network ate my fine-grained auth engine: Cisco to acquire Securent</a></li><li><a href="http://www.tuesdaynight.org/2007/03/09/no-identifiers-just-attributes-uniqueness-wheres-the-context.html" rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">No identifiers, just attributes, uniqueness: Where&#8217;s the context?</a></li><li><a href="http://www.tuesdaynight.org/2007/09/05/now-it-is-official-oracle-buys-bridgestream.html" rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">Now it is official: Oracle buys Bridgestream</a></li><li><a href="http://www.tuesdaynight.org/2008/01/14/erm-and-the-organization-kevins-response.html" rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">ERM and the organization: Kevin&#8217;s response</a></li><li><a href="http://www.tuesdaynight.org/2006/02/07/roles-courion-a-prediction-for-2006-and-rsa.html" rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">Roles, Courion, a Prediction for 2006, and RSA</a></li></ul></div>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>Your network ate my fine-grained auth engine: Cisco to acquire Securent</title>
		<link>http://www.tuesdaynight.org/2007/11/01/your-network-ate-my-fine-grained-auth-engine-cisco-to-acquire-securent.html</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 17:47:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ian Glazer</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Cisco has announced it has agreed to acquire Securent. First, of congrats to my friends there. Well done.</p> <p>Second, I have to wonder about this one. It makes a form of sense to integrate Securent into SONA. That makes sense&#8230; at some point. I wonder how baked the addressable market is for fine-grained authorization capabilities [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cisco has <a href="http://newsroom.cisco.com/dlls/2007/corp_110107.html">announced</a> it has agreed to acquire Securent.  First, of congrats to my friends there.  Well done.</p>
<p>Second, I have to wonder about this one.  It makes a form of sense to integrate Securent into SONA.  That makes sense&#8230; at some point.  I wonder how baked the addressable market is for fine-grained authorization capabilities managed from the network through the application stack.  Abstracting routing tables to business processes and objects is definitely an interesting one, but when does it really transition from an interesting academic exercise into a Cisco-sized market?</p>
<p>Third, Andras Cser over at Forrester <a href="http://blogs.forrester.com/srm/2007/11/cisco-acquires-.html">writes</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>Given the fact that enterprises are increasingly looking for integrated IAM stacks, the entry of Cisco into the entitlement management market will require a clear strategy of becoming a provider of IAM solutions either through organic growth or by acquisition.</p></blockquote>
<p>If Cisco is really getting into the IAM market, they picked a bit of an unusual beachhead.  Entitlement management and fine-grained auth are emerging submarkets within IAM; they are important, but are significantly smaller markets than web access management, enterprise single sign-on, user provisioning, etc.  If Cisco is that serious about tackling this market, it seems to me they would have started with a more mainstream, mature area.</p>
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