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		<title>Why Compliance Cannot be Delivered as a Service</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 16:39:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ian Glazer</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p class="MsoNormal">My friend Mark MacAuley can always be counted on to stir things up. He’s seen plenty of enterprise deployments and architectures and comes at problems with a combination of Yankee ingenuity and healthy cynicism. Over on Identitystuff, Mark writes about offering Compliance as a service:</p> <p class="MsoNormal">The new frontier is CaaS – Compliance as [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="MsoNormal">My friend Mark MacAuley can always be counted on to stir things up.<span>  </span>He’s seen plenty of enterprise deployments and architectures and comes at problems with a combination of Yankee ingenuity and healthy cynicism.<span>  </span>Over on Identitystuff, <a href="http://identitystuff.blogspot.com/2008/02/caas-compliance-as-service.html">Mark writes about offering Compliance as a service</a>:</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">The new frontier is CaaS – Compliance as a Service. Fixed cost, consistent automated reporting, a defensible model for implementing and showing transparency.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Although the intent of Compliance is good, in Mark’s estimation Compliance is 100% cost with no positive yield to the bottom line.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">The trouble is that Mark refers to Compliance as if it is an IT service that can be delivered like outsourced help desk or security management.<span>  </span>Compliance, the Big “C,” cannot be delivered as a service.<span>  </span>The Big “C” is the interplay between people, processes, and IT systems to achieve the mission of the business in the context of regulatory and market pressures.<span>    </span>It isn’t binary; it isn’t something you have one day and not the next.<span>  </span>This dynamic interplay requires continuous measurement and feedback loops to ensure that deviations are corrected and, ideally, prevented.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Compliance is a matter of controls &#8211; instituting a variety of controls and then charting the business’ distance in relation to those controls at all times.<span>  </span>Let’s take a simple common non-business example.<span>  </span>When a cop pulls you over for speeding, you often get asked two questions:</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">This is a simple example of controls in daily life.<span>  </span>To track towards Compliance, first, you have to know about the control – awareness of the speed limit.<span>  </span>Second, you have to be aware of your relationship to the control – how fast you are going.<span>  </span>Finally, you, as a safe driver and responsible citizen, have to continually measure your relation to the control – keep your eye on the speedometer, unless you want a visit from auditors or enforcement agencies.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Expressing, understanding, monitoring, and enforcing controls CAN be delivered as a service.<span>  </span>These services, including controls documentation and controls management, address automated and manual controls for IT and non-IT systems and processes.<span>  </span>And it is the delivery of these capabilities as a service that can reduce the cost of compliance.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://360tek.blogspot.com/2008/02/compliance-as-service-new-frontier.html">Matt Flynn get’s in on the action</a> and provides a crucial point, if indirectly:</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I think there are definitely organizations out there that would love to have a third party who is willing to be an expert and <em>own</em> compliance for them.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">It’s people!<span>  </span>Compliance is People!<span>  </span>This is the other piece of the puzzle and as Matt says, it can be delivered by a third party.<span>  </span>Service providers, with deep domain expertise, armed with controls documentation and management tools, can provide holistic compliance services, and with a little creative thinking, a bit of indemnity insurance, they can truly own compliance for an enterprise.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">The Big “C” Compliance cannot be delivered as a service, nor by Santa Claus, not for all the tea in China.<span>  </span>But that being said, compliance experts and expertise bolstered by controls management and documentation services can help organizations track towards Compliance and be able to adapt as any of the variables in the Compliance equation shift.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">(Originally posted over on <a href="http://www.approva.net/audittrail/2008/02/15/why-compliance-cannot-be-delivered-as-a-service/">Audit Trail</a>.)</p>
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		<title>Oracle buys LogicalApps: Redux</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 00:29:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ian Glazer</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Lori Rowland has posted an examination of the state of market given Oracle&#8217;s acquisition of LogicalApps. Her analysis of the impact of this acquisition to us independent controls management companies mirrors some of my thoughts on the matter. There was one thing that caught my eye. Lori writes:</p> <p>There are obvious benefits to implementing Oracle [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lori Rowland has <a href="http://identityblog.burtongroup.com/bgidps/2007/10/oracle-acquires.html">posted</a> an examination of the state of market given Oracle&#8217;s acquisition of LogicalApps. Her analysis of the impact of this acquisition to us independent controls management companies mirrors some of <a href="http://www.approva.net/audittrail/2007/10/11/oracle-buys-logicalapps-approva-remains-the-land-of-freedom/">my</a> <a href="http://www.tuesdaynight.org/2007/10/11/oracle-buys-logicalapps-approva-remains-the-land-of-freedom.html">thoughts</a> on the matter.  There was one thing that  caught my eye.  Lori writes:</p>
<blockquote><p>There are obvious benefits to implementing Oracle and SAP’s controls management solutions to manage the respective environments. Who knows SAP SOD policies or sensitive transactions better than SAP, right?</p></blockquote>
<p>Maybe not.  I posit that the audit community (both internal and external auditors) have a better sense for what constitutes an SoD violation in their  business context than ERP vendors do.  Clearly, the ERP vendors know, from a functional stand-point, what each transaction and function does in their products.  This enables them to build the &#8220;well, duh&#8221; SoD policies such as &#8220;flag everyone with SAP_ALL.&#8221;  The &#8220;well, duh&#8221; SoD policies are the just the ante to play in the controls monitoring game.  The meaningful, high value SoD policies come from the audit community and their years of lessons learned working across multiple industry verticals globally.  It has yet to been if the ERP vendors will truly cater to this community&#8217;s needs.  It is the greater audit community that Approva has sought to serve since day one and we&#8217;ll continue to do so.  Viva independence!</p>
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