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		<title>D.C. to expand surveillance camera program</title>
		<link>http://www.tuesdaynight.org/2011/02/07/d-c-to-expand-surveillance-camera-program.html</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Feb 2011 15:43:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ian Glazer</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Even though DC faces a budget crisis and there are radical inequities in our public education system, the city is looking to expand its surveillance program. As I have mentioned before, there are strong evidence that CCTV surveillance doesn&#8217;t lower the crime rate and doesn&#8217;t add to the public good. Hopefully, the city council will [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even though DC faces a budget crisis and there are <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/02/06/AR2011020603122.html?hpid=sec-education">radical inequities in our public education system</a>, <a href="http://washingtonexaminer.com/local/dc/2011/01/dc-expanding-its-public-surveillance-camera-network">the city is looking to expand its surveillance program</a>. As I have <a href="http://www.tuesdaynight.org/2008/04/10/poorly-spent-funds-surveillance-cameras-in-dc.html">mentioned</a> <a href="http://www.tuesdaynight.org/2009/08/25/but-its-such-a-lovely-panopticon-id-hate-to-have-to-return-it.html">before</a>, there are <a href="http://www.bigbrotherwatch.org.uk/cctvreport.pdf">strong</a> <a href="http://www.aclu.org/images/asset_upload_file708_35775.pdf">evidence</a> that CCTV surveillance doesn&#8217;t lower the crime rate and doesn&#8217;t add to the public good. Hopefully, the city council will put a stop to this but I doubt it will.</p>
<div id="crp_related"><h3>Related Posts:</h3><ul><li><a href="http://www.tuesdaynight.org/2008/07/03/follow-up-on-surveillance-cameras-in-dc.html" rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">Follow-up on &#8220;Surveillance Cameras in DC&#8221;</a></li><li><a href="http://www.tuesdaynight.org/2009/08/25/but-its-such-a-lovely-panopticon-id-hate-to-have-to-return-it.html" rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">But its such a lovely panopticon, I&#8217;d hate to have to return it</a></li><li><a href="http://www.tuesdaynight.org/2008/07/15/schneier-on-cctv-in-the-guardian.html" rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">Schneier on CCTV in the Guardian</a></li><li><a href="http://www.tuesdaynight.org/2008/04/10/poorly-spent-funds-surveillance-cameras-in-dc.html" rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">Poorly spent funds: Surveillance cameras in DC</a></li><li><a href="http://www.tuesdaynight.org/2008/09/03/trip-report-from-the-privacy-symposium.html" rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">Trip report from the Privacy Symposium</a></li></ul></div>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>I “like” you, but I hate your apps – Part 3: Controls and a look at the market</title>
		<link>http://www.tuesdaynight.org/2011/01/28/i-like-you-but-i-hate-your-apps-part-3.html</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jan 2011 13:29:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ian Glazer</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>The last part of my series on apps and privacy has gone up over at Gartner.</p> Related Posts:I &#8220;like&#8221; you, but I hate your apps &#8211; Part 2: Desires &#038; ExpectationsI &#8220;like&#8221; you, but I hate your appsWaiter &#8211; there&#8217;s no (more) identity in my blogThe continuing story of Privacy MirrorTuesdays on Tuesdaynight or Gartner buys Burton Group]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The last part of my series on apps and privacy has gone <a href="http://blogs.gartner.com/ian-glazer/2011/01/28/i-like-you-but-i-hate-your-apps-part-3/">up over at Gartner</a>.</p>
<div id="crp_related"><h3>Related Posts:</h3><ul><li><a href="http://www.tuesdaynight.org/2011/01/20/i-like-you-but-i-hate-your-apps-part-2-desires-expectations.html" rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">I &#8220;like&#8221; you, but I hate your apps &#8211; Part 2: Desires &#038; Expectations</a></li><li><a href="http://www.tuesdaynight.org/2011/01/14/i-like-you-but-i-hate-your-apps.html" rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">I &#8220;like&#8221; you, but I hate your apps</a></li><li><a href="http://www.tuesdaynight.org/2010/05/13/waiter-theres-no-more-identity-in-my-blog.html" rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">Waiter &#8211; there&#8217;s no (more) identity in my blog</a></li><li><a href="http://www.tuesdaynight.org/2011/01/21/the-continuing-story-of-privacy-mirror.html" rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">The continuing story of Privacy Mirror</a></li><li><a href="http://www.tuesdaynight.org/2010/01/05/tuesdays-on-tuesdaynight-or-gartner-buys-burton-group.html" rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">Tuesdays on Tuesdaynight or Gartner buys Burton Group</a></li></ul></div>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>The continuing story of Privacy Mirror</title>
		<link>http://www.tuesdaynight.org/2011/01/21/the-continuing-story-of-privacy-mirror.html</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jan 2011 21:12:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ian Glazer</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>I had let Privacy Mirror languish for a bit, and having found a free few hours, I decided to update Privacy Mirror to take advantage of Facebook’s Graph API. (For those of you not familiar with my Privacy Mirror experiment, it is a very basic app that explores what personal data apps can see via [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had let <a href="http://apps.facebook.com/privacy_mirror/">Privacy Mirror</a> languish for a bit, and having found a free few hours, I decided to update Privacy Mirror to take advantage of Facebook’s <a href="http://developers.facebook.com/docs/api">Graph API</a>. (For those of you not familiar with my Privacy Mirror experiment, it is a very basic app that explores what personal data apps can see via your friends.) Since I last updated Privacy Mirror, Facebook rolled out two major features. The first was the previously mentioned Graph API, which is a RESTful API that results Facebook data as JSON.</p>
<p>The second, and frankly the more interesting, was extended permissions. The newish extended permissions govern how apps can access data and how users are informed of this use.  It is these extended permissions at the bottom of the recent kerfuffle over Facebook allowing app developers access to phone numbers and addresses. (Ars Technica did a <a href="http://arstechnica.com/security/news/2011/01/facebook-thinks-twice-on-giving-access-to-phone-address-data.ars">good job over covering this</a>, and here is <a href="http://developers.facebook.com/blog/post/447">Facebook’s current response</a>.)</p>
<p>Extended permissions work like this. First, an app developer encodes a request for access to various pieces of your profile data, as well as pieces of your friends’ profile data. Second, when you add the app to your profile, the app asks you for your permission. The following is a picture of what it looks like when Privacy Mirror asks for access to your and your friends’ information.</p>
<div id="attachment_665" class="wp-caption alignleft" style="width: 160px"><a href="http://www.tuesdaynight.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/Request-for-Permission-2.jpg" rel="lightbox[664]"><img class="size-thumbnail wp-image-665 " title="Request for Permission" src="http://www.tuesdaynight.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/Request-for-Permission-2-150x150.jpg" alt="" width="150" height="150" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">An example of extended permissions</p></div>
<p>It is crucial important to notice that you as an app user can only agree to the use of all the requested information (as opposed to individual pieces.) Also, the app user cannot say that the app can have permission to her own data but not that of her friends. (See my series “<a href="http://blogs.gartner.com/ian-glazer/2011/01/14/i-like-you-but-i-hate-your-apps-part-1/">I ‘like’ you, but I hate you apps</a>” for the implications of this coarse-grained control.) Third, once the app has your permission, it goes off and does what it doe</p>
<p>I have to say, I like the spirit of the extended permissions. I like the fact that developers must ask for permission and I like that users must grant that permission. But I am very troubled by the lack of granular control afforded to the user.</p>
<p>Also, Facebook has not addressed what I feel to be a much bigger privacy issue: the mistreatment of relationship between people and their apps. If I have an app and you don’t use the same app, then that app can only see the elements of your profile that you have allowed applications to see. (This is controlled via the <a href="http://www.facebook.com/settings/?tab=privacy&amp;section=apps">Account &gt; Privacy Settings &gt; Apps, Games and Websites &gt; Info accessible through your friends settings</a>.) But if you and I both have the same app on our profile, then the app can see the elements of your profile that you can granted me access to see. In this sense, the app executes with my permissions based on our relationship. But you have a relationship with me, not my apps. This is subtle and remains an critical unsolved problem.</p>
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		<title>I &#8220;like&#8221; you, but I hate your apps &#8211; Part 2: Desires &amp; Expectations</title>
		<link>http://www.tuesdaynight.org/2011/01/20/i-like-you-but-i-hate-your-apps-part-2-desires-expectations.html</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jan 2011 16:29:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ian Glazer</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve posted the second part of my &#8216;I &#8220;like&#8221; you, but I hate your apps&#8217; series over on my Gartner blog.</p> Related Posts:I “like” you, but I hate your apps – Part 3: Controls and a look at the marketI &#8220;like&#8221; you, but I hate your appsThe continuing story of Privacy MirrorWaiter &#8211; there&#8217;s no (more) identity in my blogPartial automation is equivalent to partial deployment]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve posted the second part of my &#8216;I &#8220;like&#8221; you, but I hate your apps&#8217; series over on <a href="http://blogs.gartner.com/ian-glazer/2011/01/20/i-“like”-you-but-i-hate-your-apps-–-part-2-desires-and-expectations/">my Gartner blog</a>.</p>
<div id="crp_related"><h3>Related Posts:</h3><ul><li><a href="http://www.tuesdaynight.org/2011/01/28/i-like-you-but-i-hate-your-apps-part-3.html" rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">I “like” you, but I hate your apps – Part 3: Controls and a look at the market</a></li><li><a href="http://www.tuesdaynight.org/2011/01/14/i-like-you-but-i-hate-your-apps.html" rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">I &#8220;like&#8221; you, but I hate your apps</a></li><li><a href="http://www.tuesdaynight.org/2011/01/21/the-continuing-story-of-privacy-mirror.html" rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">The continuing story of Privacy Mirror</a></li><li><a href="http://www.tuesdaynight.org/2010/05/13/waiter-theres-no-more-identity-in-my-blog.html" rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">Waiter &#8211; there&#8217;s no (more) identity in my blog</a></li><li><a href="http://www.tuesdaynight.org/2007/09/05/partial-automation-is-equivalent-to-partial-deployment.html" rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">Partial automation is equivalent to partial deployment</a></li></ul></div>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>I &#8220;like&#8221; you, but I hate your apps</title>
		<link>http://www.tuesdaynight.org/2011/01/14/i-like-you-but-i-hate-your-apps.html</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jan 2011 19:02:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ian Glazer</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been doing a lot of thinking lately about how the apps on our smartphones and Facebook profiles introduce strangers into our interactions. I&#8217;ve broken my thoughts up into a three-part post over on my Gartner blog. Check out part 1 and give me your thoughts on it.</p> Related Posts:I “like” you, but I hate your apps – Part 3: Controls and a look at the marketI &#8220;like&#8221; you, but I hate your apps &#8211; Part 2: Desires &#038; ExpectationsWaiter &#8211; there&#8217;s no (more) identity in my blogThe continuing story of Privacy MirrorFollow-up on Facebook and The Washington Post]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been doing a lot of thinking lately about how the apps on our smartphones and Facebook profiles introduce strangers into our interactions. I&#8217;ve broken my thoughts up into a three-part post over on my Gartner blog. <a href="http://blogs.gartner.com/ian-glazer/2011/01/14/i-like-you-but-i-hate-your-apps-part-1/">Check out part 1</a> and give me your thoughts on it.</p>
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		<title>Opting-in to a relationship</title>
		<link>http://www.tuesdaynight.org/2010/08/03/opting-in-to-a-relationship.html</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Aug 2010 20:23:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ian Glazer</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>My series of posts related to Facebook and The Washington Post has become very interesting today. Luke provided some insightful feedback on WaPo&#8217;s use of an iframe served up to provide a socially-connected experience, and in doing so he raised an interesting point. He said:</p> <p>The opt-in question is interesting. Since no information is being [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My series of posts related to <a href="http://www.tuesdaynight.org/2010/05/07/facebook-washington-post-behavior-i-cannot-explain.html">Facebook and The Washington Post</a> has become very interesting today. Luke <a href="http://www.tuesdaynight.org/2010/08/03/follow-up-on-facebook-and-the-washington-post.html">provided some insightful feedback</a> on WaPo&#8217;s use of an iframe served up to provide a socially-connected experience, and in doing so he raised an interesting point. He said:</p>
<blockquote><p>The opt-in question is interesting. Since no information is being transferred, it’s not clear that there’s anything to opt into. I think the social plugins work the same as myriad other plugins and ad networks around the internet, with the exception that it’s more obvious to the user what’s happening. If users needed to click a button in order to see personalized stories, then the vast majority wouldn’t get to experience the value that’s created.</p></blockquote>
<p>For a little clarity here, the opt-in refers to The Washington Post&#8217;s Network News feature. If you opt-in (which was the default) you get the Facebook iframe which shows you friend activity with respect to the Post. If you opt-out, your version of www.washingtonpost.com doesn&#8217;t include the iframe.</p>
<p>Two points. First, the Washington Post&#8217;s decision to opt all of their users in by default is an awful one because it presents an asymmetry of relationship to people not prepared to deal with it. I have a relationship with WaPo. I have a relationship with Facebook. By opting me in, I suddenly see that WaPo and Facebook have a relationship and it seems to center around me. (Now in reality, it isn&#8217;t all about me, but from a user&#8217;s perspective it is.) This sudden presentation of relationship, even though no data is being passed, lacks a context and explanation that would make it more palatable, if not more desirous, to users.</p>
<p>Second, even though there is no data transfer, there very clearly is something to opt-in to: an N-way relationship. Me, the Washington Post, Facebook, and my friends who also read the Washington Post are all connected in the social graph once I opt-in. I&#8217;ll give Luke that no data is transferred, but by forming edges between between up-until-then disconnected nodes something new is created (a relationship) and users ought to have control over that. This is very similar to my <a href="http://www.tuesdaynight.org/2009/12/18/facebook-privacy-revisited-privacy-mirror-version-2.html">Privacy Mirror</a> findings. I have a relationship with my friends. I do not have a relationship with my friends apps, and likely I don&#8217;t want one. And yet, it seems that the social graph doesn&#8217;t make that distinction: an edge is an edge is an edge.</p>
<p>By revealing asymmetrical relationship and by opting me into a ready-baked relationship without providing choice leads to <a href="http://www.tuesdaynight.org/2009/11/23/why-seeing-your-social-activities-again-seems-so-uncomfortable.html">uncomfortable users</a> to say the least.</p>
<p>In the end, this thread is more an illustration of how the transition to a social web cannot, should not, and must not be made in one bound. Websites like The Washington Post have to better educate their users about the richness of experience connecting to the social graph can bring while respecting user choice.</p>
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		<title>Follow-up on Facebook and The Washington Post</title>
		<link>http://www.tuesdaynight.org/2010/08/03/follow-up-on-facebook-and-the-washington-post.html</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Aug 2010 13:51:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ian Glazer</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been getting a lot of comments on my post about Facebook and The Washington Post. I wanted to just write a brief follow-up on it. I had Luke Shepard of Facebook present at the Gartner Catalyst conference last week and through a bit of serendipity he found Tuesdaynight and my recent post. He kindly [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been getting a lot of comments on my post about <a href="http://www.tuesdaynight.org/2010/05/07/facebook-washington-post-behavior-i-cannot-explain.html">Facebook and The Washington Post</a>. I wanted to just write a brief follow-up on it. I had Luke Shepard of Facebook present at the Gartner Catalyst conference last week and through a bit of serendipity he found Tuesdaynight and my recent post. He kindly provided this clarification on what was going on:</p>
<blockquote><p>The Washington Post still has no idea what your Facebook account is – the blue box is an iframe onto facebook.com, and it’s served entirely by Facebook. No information is transferred to the Wapo, and none of the rest of your activity on Wapo is linked back to Facebook, unless you explicitly choose to (by clicking the “Like” plugin, for example).</p></blockquote>
<p>As I mentioned in my comment back to him, there were two things that threw me off. First, I didn&#8217;t realize how Facebook&#8217;s session management worked. FB sessions live on after you close the browser unless you explicitly log-off. This is no different than any other website. However, what is a bit different is that  sites with Facebook&#8217;s embedded iframe can take advantage of you departed-but-not-logged-out session and this is exactly what was happening on WaPo. Second, I have a problem with WaPo giving me a choice about Network News but not informing me about it. Furthermore, the default opt-in on the part of WaPo I think disrespects people&#8217;s desire for meaningful choice and control.</p>
<p>Thanks to Luke for providing a bit of insight and thanks to all of you how have commented on the previous post.</p>
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		<title>Facebook &amp; Washington Post behavior I cannot explain</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 07 May 2010 22:25:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ian Glazer</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>I was looking at some local news on Washington Post&#8217;s website. I happen to notice that there in the right gutter along with miscellaneous ads which my brain filters out of my awareness, was a blue box. In the blue box was a list of things my Facebook friends have &#8220;liked&#8221; on WaPo recently.</p> <p>And [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was looking at some local news on Washington Post&#8217;s website. I happen to notice that there in the right gutter along with miscellaneous ads which my brain filters out of my awareness, was a blue box. In the blue box was a list of things my Facebook friends have &#8220;liked&#8221; on WaPo recently.</p>
<p>And this took me by surprise.</p>
<p>I opened a different browser and headed to Facebook. First, I checked my Application Settings to see if a Washington Post application had slipped into my profile. I had this happen &#8211; Gizmodo and some other sites appeared in my authorized application list without getting my authorization. See <a href="http://www.pcworld.com/article/195710/new_facebook_social_features_secretly_add_apps_to_your_profile_updated.html">this article</a> for more. There was no Washington Post application. Next up, I checked my Privacy Settings to verify once more that I disabled Instant Personalization. And yes, that was still the case.</p>
<p>So, wtf?</p>
<p>I clicked on the big red X that WaPo had so kindly put in the blue box with my friends activities. Instead of removing the widget, it brought me to my Washington Post account. (At some point, I registered an account with the Post so I could actually read what they wrote &#8211; I know, crazy eh?) And there was a setting called Network News. Sure enough I was opt&#8217;ed in to that. This Network News setting enabled the Facebook social activity widget to appear on the pages I saw.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the million dollar question &#8211; How did Washington Post link to my Facebook profile? I certainly never used Facebook Connect, nor have I ever &#8220;Liked&#8221; something on the Post.</p>
<p>The best guess I&#8217;ve got at this point is that the Post used my profile email address to match with Facebook. But this is a pretty weak theory as I have my privacy settings cranked down tight on such things at Facebook, for what that is worth. I check the Post&#8217;s privacy policy and no mention of Facebook anywhere.</p>
<p>Anyone have an idea on this? Anyone seeing the same behavior?</p>
<p>BTW &#8211; if you want out of the Post&#8217;s Network News, <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?node=admin/registration/manage&amp;destination=hpPref&amp;nextstep=update">go here</a> to change your preferences.</p>
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		<title>Maturity and Metrics: A few thoughts from the IAPP’s Privacy Summit 2010</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Apr 2010 12:59:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ian Glazer</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>With a case of the volcano blues, I found myself at the International Association of Privacy Professionals Privacy Summit 2010. As I sat in sessions and caught up with customers at this, the largest gathering of its kind, I noticed an undercurrent to the overall conversation. This undercurrent sounded, in some sense, very similar to [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With a case of the volcano blues, I found myself at the International Association of Privacy Professionals Privacy Summit 2010. As I sat in sessions and caught up with customers at this, the largest gathering of its kind, I noticed an undercurrent to the overall conversation. This undercurrent sounded, in some sense, very similar to conversations I have with my identity management customers regarding maturity and metrics.</p>
<p>Privacy has moved beyond the compliance officer and is receiving better representation in business operations. Example of this include an increased presence of privacy practices in</p>
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<li>project and software development lifecycles</li>
<li>procurement and contracting processes especially with respect to procurement 3<sup>rd</sup> party services</li>
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<p>In some sense this has given privacy, and its closely aligned peer – data protection, more of an outward appearance of risk management than compliance. This is evidence of privacy’s maturation.</p>
<p>But as privacy matures, as privacy is seen for its risk management capabilities, as privacy gets more engrained in business operations, better metrics relating to privacy are needed.</p>
<p>I sat in one session in which privacy professionals talked about the challenges of building dashboards to display privacy metrics. Few could point to meaningful dashboards that they had built. Fewer still felt they had a clear handle on what kinds of questions they should be answering and how they should measure to do so. This challenge relating to measuring privacy lines up with <a href="http://www.burtongroup.com/Client/Research/Document.aspx%3Fcid=1897">recent research I published on policy governance</a>.</p>
<p>As demonstrated by the size of this year’s Privacy Summit, it is clear to see the privacy profession is growing. The questions and nuanced challenges privacy professionals raised during the week are further evidence of privacy’s maturation. Privacy professionals are searching for more metric-driven ways to represent their efforts and programs especially as they work with their business partners. The results of this search for more tangible things to measure is part of the growing pains of privacy that the industry must endure.</p>
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		<title>Facebook privacy revisited: Privacy Mirror version 2</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 22:44:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ian Glazer</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 12.0px Helvetica;">Facebook&#8217;s recent changes to its privacy system has been garnering a lot of attention and not a lot of it is good. Both the EFF and Kaliya Hamlin (via ReadWriteWeb) have written up their takes on the matter and, all in all, I think they are decent [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 12.0px Helvetica;">Facebook&#8217;s recent changes to its privacy system has been garnering a lot of attention and not a lot of it is good. Both the <a href="http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2009/12/facebooks-new-privacy-changes-good-bad-and-ugly">EFF</a> and Kaliya Hamlin (via <a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/facebooks_privacy_move_violates_contract_with_user.php?utm_source=feedburner&amp;utm_medium=email&amp;utm_campaign=Feed%253A+readwriteweb+%2528ReadWriteWeb%2529">ReadWriteWeb</a>) have written up their takes on the matter and, all in all, I think they are decent assessments.</p>
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<p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 12.0px Helvetica;">With all the supposed changes in Facebook&#8217;s privacy system, I decided to revisit my work with <a href="http://apps.facebook.com/privacy_mirror/">Privacy Mirror</a> (you can catch the backstory: <a href="http://www.tuesdaynight.org/2009/07/27/looking-beyond-the-privacy-mirror.html">here</a> and then <a href="http://www.tuesdaynight.org/2009/08/21/the-challenge-in-fixing-facebook%E2%80%99s-underlying-privacy-problems.html">here</a>). Having retested PM with both friends and strangers, here&#8217;s what I&#8217;ve learned: <em>Plus ça change, plus c&#8217;est la même chose.</em></p>
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<p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 12.0px Helvetica;">The more things change, the more they stay the same.</p>
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<p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 12.0px Helvetica;">Facebook&#8217;s inconsistent treatment of privacy still remains. In a nutshell, what a 3rd party developer can see in your profile, having been granted access to you via your friends, directly depends on whether you have the same application they do. If you and your friends use the same Facebook app, then the 3rd party developer will see your profile (and photos and posts, etc.) as if that developer was your friend. If you do not use the same Facebook app that your friend does, then the 3rd party application is subject to a different set of constraints.</p>
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<p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 12.0px Helvetica;">I question whether the recent changes Facebook has instituted have even remotely satisfied <a href="http://www.priv.gc.ca/index_e.cfm">Commissioner Stoddart&#8217;s</a> <a href="http://www.priv.gc.ca/cf-dc/2009/2009_008_0716_e.cfm">concerns with Facebook</a>, specifically 3rd party access to user information. Although users can control the scope of disclosure of their posts a bit better, defaulting settings to &#8220;Everyone&#8221; access as well as potentially making user&#8217;s social graphs public undermines any attempt to cast Facebook in a pro-user control light.</p>
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<p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 12.0px Helvetica;">There&#8217;s also a nit I&#8217;d like to pick with the privacy settings system in Facebook &#8211; inconsistent save behavior. In some cases, Facebook automatically saves changed to privacy settings. In some cases, you have to press Save. This is a small point but it points to a larger issue. If service providers do not provide their users with meaningful, usable choices when it comes to controlling privacy and disclosure controls, but instead heap more controls in hard to find places, then these service providers have not aided their customers in the least. More user choices only equals more user control if those choices are clear, consumable, and centralized.</p>
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<p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 12.0px Helvetica;">If you want to conduct some of your own testing of Facebook&#8217;s privacy system, feel free to play with <a href="http://apps.facebook.com/privacy_mirror/">Privacy Mirror</a>. The following are new features I&#8217;ve added:</p>
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<li style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 12.0px Helvetica;">PM tests to see if the person your are pointing the Mirror at is a Privacy Mirror user. If they are you&#8217;ll get results based on their privacy settings with respect to you as a person. If they aren&#8217;t you&#8217;ll get results based on their privacy settings with respect to Privacy Mirror being a 3rd party application. This behavior is core Facebook Platform behavior which I feel is inconsistent and puts people at a disadvantage.</li>
<li style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 12.0px Helvetica;">PM tries to find some photo albums that the person may have added</li>
<li style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 12.0px Helvetica;">PM tried to find some photos that are tagged with the person in question</li>
<li style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 12.0px Helvetica;">Added the ability to point the Mirror at a specific person better using their username</li>
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<div><span style="font-family: Helvetica, 'Times New Roman', 'Bitstream Charter', Times, serif;"><span style="line-height: normal; font-size: small;">(Cross-posted from Burton Group&#8217;s <a href="http://identityblog.burtongroup.com">Identity Blog</a>)</span></span></div>
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